tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458786710697760224.post6299831546867653166..comments2023-09-07T03:46:07.252-07:00Comments on Or Words to that Effect...: Finally finished. My thoughts on Sex Offender laws.randyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16659230610436922709noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458786710697760224.post-28708090798249780542012-01-04T05:43:54.628-08:002012-01-04T05:43:54.628-08:00Hello Anonymous;
Thank you for writing and telli...Hello Anonymous;<br /> Thank you for writing and telling us of your experiences. It is heartrending to think how simple it is to destroy someone's life. <br /> I wish I had words of comfort for you. I wish I could say "this will improve", but it seems to be far in the horizon...if at all. I am reminded of the movie "The Green Mile" where they had just completed the execution of the Indian man...I forget the character...and he was being mocked by the jerk cop. Said jerk was stopped and told "He's square with the state". It seems to me, having been through a trial, judged, sentenced, and all that completing that sentence should make one "square with the state". Why that is not the case, I just don't understand.<br /> Please continue to live a great life, continue to hold your head high. And, please continue to come to the blog and give your views and share your experiences. I can't speak for those out there that have been so against you unjustly, but you are welcome here.<br />-randyrandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16659230610436922709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458786710697760224.post-78429562138368995372012-01-04T02:21:54.709-08:002012-01-04T02:21:54.709-08:00I am a sex offender convicted in 2002. I find myse...I am a sex offender convicted in 2002. I find myself on the fence about this issue often I agree with some laws obviously we can't run around raping children but there is no system out there for the sex offenders like me who have tried extremely hard to turn their life around I am in college have two kids and work normal job I moved to the state of north Dakota when I moved here some lady went missing dru shadeen and what did they do they turned up the heat on sex offenders putting them on the news when they moved hell they trumped my charges and told the whole community not to trust me and watch their kids around me I lost my job my apartment and my life in general so I couldn't find a place to live so I registered my car as my house so what did they do they made a law using my name that says a sex offender must have a residence or stay in jail so the next day after they created the law they took me to the jail and wouldn't release me until my girlfriend found a place I was allowed to live ten years after I was released I am still paying for my conviction and so are my children I wonder if they think of my children's safety they see more sex offenders every year than 100% of everyone else's children I wonder how these people get off on bringing people like me down by the way the girl who aren't missing and was found dead was raped and killed by a sheriff but I'm the one still paying for thisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458786710697760224.post-1802654658790289942011-08-01T13:33:22.044-07:002011-08-01T13:33:22.044-07:00Thank you, Nikki;
I think Scottie responded quit...Thank you, Nikki;<br /> I think Scottie responded quite well for me here, except I would point out: You have a mouth to speak, fingers to type - let your observations and objections be heard! Many think "I am but one small voice", and yet, I point out this: http://wordsthateffect.blogspot.com/2011/04/see-scotties-toybox.html<br />hugs;<br />randy.randyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16659230610436922709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458786710697760224.post-86794374741791619292011-08-01T13:12:50.589-07:002011-08-01T13:12:50.589-07:00Hi Evan;
Sorry to be so late thanking you for yo...Hi Evan;<br /> Sorry to be so late thanking you for your comment - it landed in the spam file and I didn't see it. That happens now and again for no apparant reason???<br /> I wanted to mention that I used the "slippery slope" issue not in seriousness so much as in showing that the use of such logic does find extensions quite quickly, and that more is needed than that one criteria for such taking of a person's rights. I do have a cousin who is a "crack head", whose life is all but over because she can't seem to go without her need. She was addicted at 12, by experimentation.<br /> Thank you for your very well thought out comment.<br />-randy.randyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16659230610436922709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458786710697760224.post-84275434042526725102011-08-01T05:46:13.385-07:002011-08-01T05:46:13.385-07:00Hello Nikki, it takes a lot of bravery to face the...Hello Nikki, it takes a lot of bravery to face the condemnation for pointing out the faults of these laws. As Randy and Evan said , in our country sex offenders, regardless of crime or rehabilitation, are the lowest of the low and fair game for those who need scapegoats. No one sticks up for them it seems. <br /><br />That is changing slowly now. more people are seeing the reality of the situation and are willing to speak up and to help change things. But in order to help them change it more people need to speak out. We have to be strong enough and loud enough to counter the hysteria. <br /><br />Hugs<br />ScottieScottiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06355524255020038817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458786710697760224.post-83858411117251135572011-07-31T23:52:50.329-07:002011-07-31T23:52:50.329-07:00What has happened to our free world? I feel totall...What has happened to our free world? I feel totally set back into the past - to the Middle Ages with the "witch hunts" - into the last century with "Gestapo", "Stasi" and "Securitate". Where are the thinkers and philosophers of the "Enlightenment". No intellectual goes against these grievances.<br />NikkiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458786710697760224.post-69336804299418796512011-07-31T15:18:15.015-07:002011-07-31T15:18:15.015-07:00Hi Scottie;
You, of course, are so right regardi...Hi Scottie;<br /> You, of course, are so right regarding the ability of people to do what they want. I have family who live part time in one house and part time in another. They do lock their doors, including the garage, but it didn't stop the burglers from simply cutting a hole in the wall. <br /> People need to WANT to do what is right. That's the only course forward.<br />hugs,<br />randy.randyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16659230610436922709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458786710697760224.post-18507756546131838832011-07-31T14:21:05.392-07:002011-07-31T14:21:05.392-07:00Randy,
That was a very thoughtful piece and thank...Randy,<br /><br />That was a very thoughtful piece and thank you for adding your thoughts to this discussion. I agree with you and the commenters who are hesitant about talking about this issue. I worried quite a bit about posting my piece for two reasons - that I might get an audience of those who expect me to condone pedophilia (and those that asked Scottie to share the "details" of his abuse) and also fear that entering this area will attract the radicals who scream pedophile or even the "google police".<br /><br />I like your use of the Nimoller quote - this has long been a favourite of mine.<br /><br />It took me a while to digest all of this but I think I mostly agree with you. I would like to point out that Maslow's hierarchy is not quite as straightforward as it seems. The progress is not as rigid most are led to believe and many, myself included, question whether sexual gratification is truly a lowest level need. Important, to be sure, but not necessarily on par with survival needs.<br /><br />Yes it would be wonderful if people could be rehabilitated while in prison, but unfortunately they are not set up in a way that would enable that. Prisons are set up to contain a collection of people from whom society needs to be protected (or so goes the official story). I agree with you that we need to protect people from dangerous criminals through the use of prisons but other facilities would be needed for rehab.<br /><br />Your reasoning about extending the "damaging to children" argument is interesting but I caution that that argument can also be taken too far. It is what is known as a "slippery slope" argument and, while to a limited extent can be true, it is actually a twisting of logic because it is often used to extend to the ridiculous and illogical (ie gay marriage, to polygamy, to bestiality).<br /><br />I think you have it right on when you state that this laws are far more about vengeance and fear. I think this is a huge issue in modern society and I will probably adress it in the near future.<br /><br />A long comment but this is a complex issue,<br /><br />Hugs,<br />EvanEvanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06763033650833418237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458786710697760224.post-71526132708377147602011-07-31T08:21:07.642-07:002011-07-31T08:21:07.642-07:00Hello Randy. I love how you describe the politici...Hello Randy. I love how you describe the politicization of the laws, that a lot of it is simply grandstanding for added votes. That seems so true as one political person tried to one up the last one. <br /><br />Do the laws do much good. Not really. I think the police should only have list, as what is the general public going to do with only snips of information, rather than a full understanding of the whole events.<br /><br />I think you are right , a lot of the new and stricter laws are really punitive and vengeful, with out doing anything to prevent new abuses from happening.<br /><br />Side note. If a person is determined enough to do an act, they will find a way. Regardless of the locks on your doors and windows if they want in bad enough, they will get in.. If they want to kill badly enough , no prison or death penalty will stop them. But in this country we are not suppose to jail and punish someone for their thoughts, only their deeds. We are not to punish future possible deeds, only what has actually be done. So why is that exact practice encouraged and done, not only by police but by the general public, scapegoating and vengeance is the right words, along with humiliation, and degradation. <br /><br />We basically seem to be making a class of people we can do the worse to, and feel that we are so much greater than. <br /><br />I don't like that. It is not a good enough reason to do this. It protects no one. It helps no one. It gives no rehabilitation, and no incentive to really reform. <br /><br />I want to make a difference in our world, hopefully with your guys help we are. HugsScottiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06355524255020038817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458786710697760224.post-48118286882870278812011-07-31T06:02:07.373-07:002011-07-31T06:02:07.373-07:00Hi Sammy and Miles;
Thank you so much for your t...Hi Sammy and Miles;<br /> Thank you so much for your thoughts. The ones who profit, indeed, seem to be driving this load of manure. And, as you say, the politicians are little concerned witht he logic of it all.<br /> Thank you so very much for visiting.<br />-randy.randyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16659230610436922709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458786710697760224.post-38847557258958878302011-07-31T03:56:08.405-07:002011-07-31T03:56:08.405-07:00Hi Sammy, hi Randy,
I totally agree with Sammy.
...Hi Sammy, hi Randy,<br /><br />I totally agree with Sammy.<br /><br />Just ask yourself: Who profits - or thinks to profit - from the extensive lifelog stigmatization of sex offenders<br />These are laws from the loudest - for the loudest.<br />In my opinion these laws are a "bit" of selfjustice - it reminds me of back to the time of KKK. <br />And maybe Google collects the other part of data about "unpopular" people.<br />I believe, there is just one CLICK at Googles to connect their databases to the ones of pol. and FBI - this can only lead into total control of a police state!<br />Opponents are shown: Look what we can do with "unpopular" people.<br /><br />If we want to know, what freedom is about, we may just want to look to Norway.<br /><br />So the question Sammy puts: <br />"Who's going to vote for a politician perceived as soft on 'paedos',..."<br />but: Who stands for freedom of the society and a liberal treating of individuals?"<br /><br />hugs.<br />milesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8458786710697760224.post-5041783889062134402011-07-31T00:59:27.378-07:002011-07-31T00:59:27.378-07:00Hello Randy
I hesitate myself to comment on this i...Hello Randy<br />I hesitate myself to comment on this issue, not because I haven't got anything to say, but because I'm laying myself open, as a self-confessed boylover, to accusations of hypocrisy and vested interest. However, reading what you've written impels me to say this - if the authorities viewed this issue in as rational and measured a way as you, the way this problem was dealt with would be very much more just than it currently is. Unfortunately, as long as the debate is driven by the demagoguery of opportunistic politicians and media pundits, fuelling the fears of the 'masses' in the way they habitually do, the chances of that justice coming to fruition are, effectively, nil. It's always much more 'profitable', in electoral terms, to kick the easy scapegoat than to actually deal with the fundamental problem. Who's going to vote for a politician perceived as soft on 'paedos', at the end of the day?<br /><br />Love & best wishes<br />Sammy BSammy Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11257879009293024225noreply@blogger.com